no duty to .
1: help new posters on their way out to feel this is a board which will wecome them, support them, and not thrust objectionable material under their nose.. 2: avoid posting porn and other photographic materials your children couldn't see unsupervised.. 3: no duty to refuse to hijack threads with irrelevant material that does not constructively further the discussion.. 4: reflect before posting as to the effect on other souls reading the posts.. 5: defend their "perceived" rights to say what they want on this board, when such "rights" are not protected by any constitutional laws.
simon is a good guy - no satan.. 6: ensure they say things acceptable at any other open and free social function, where the guests are free to express themselves.. if you dont agree with this, then post only when you are sober.. as an alcoholic i do this all the time now.. hb.
I agree we have obligations to be civil. I think it is really easy to step over the line because of the anonymous nature of posting. We need to keep this forum as comfortable for others as we can. That does not preclude debating in a respectful manner.
It is kind of a double edged sword because the anonymous factor can help us to be more open and honest about our feelings. On the other side, it can embolden us to say things we certainly would not in face to face discussion.
what a waste of living being "in the truth" was!
sometimes i see persons suggesting that the witness religion isn't all so wrong.
actually they suggest that they themselves are the issue.
Dawg,
My family knows I think it is "horse crap". However, that does nothing yet to change the fact that some of my adult children remain controlled by the utter nonsense that I helped to indoctrinate into their tender young minds.
I wish I had never heard of jws, but the damage from them has been done. I can stand up to them until I am blue in the face and the only thing accomplished is to scare my children away.
A person has to be ready to listen before they can learn something. I still have hope they will wake up one day. This is a cult we are dealing with which includes mind control.
I have not attended for years or been an advocate of their teachings. I am still bewildered that I could fall for such utter nonsense, but the reality is that I did. You have to look at situations from all angles. There is not a one size fits all approach.
Do you have grown children who you indoctrinated still caught in the lie?
i have observed a number of witness teenagers who left the 'truth'.
i have also observed that most of them end up as responsible members of society as a result of their own path to maturity - and df'ing doesn't help the process.. the typical duty of most parents of teenagers is to prevent their offspring from doing drugs, getting pregnant, crashing a car or going to jail.
once you get beyond that, most kids get tired of hangovers, get wise to their foolishness and settle down into conservative behavior that matches their parents.. what they don't need is interference and judicial examination by external busybodies who can separate them from their families and friends at a deeply critical moment in their lives.
I always told my husband that they had no business in the intimate workings of a family. Most teenagers make very predictable mistakes. It is part of learning to grow up. There is no need to involve the elders or anyone else in this process. The majority do settle down, as stated.
When a teenager is dfd, all the natural bonds of affection are prohibited when they are most needed. I still believe there should be some way to legally stop the process of shunning those who made a decision under the legal age.
All shunning is evil, no matter what the age.
what a waste of living being "in the truth" was!
sometimes i see persons suggesting that the witness religion isn't all so wrong.
actually they suggest that they themselves are the issue.
There are many ways to check out of the watchtower and of course it is a cult. I appreciate differing viewpoints though and don't see the need to force anything on anyone.
We are all happy when someone still "in the truth" leaks new info, letters, or the inside scoop on a jw scandel in the news. Insiders often offer us info that can keep us up to date about what they are force feeding our families that are still in. Is that not one reason many list for coming to this site?
Forcing someone to act as you do is not exactly different than the strategy of the leadership of the watchtower.
i joined jwd about 3 weeks ago and have been "lurking" for those 3 weeks.....til now.
a little about me....was born into the "truth" along with 4 other siblings.none of us have anything to do with the "truth.
" i'm the oldest in my 30's married my h.s.
Welcome and I can understand the why you question the current blood doctrine. It was kinda the last straw for me too. When you work in the medical field it is impossible to gloss over the problem of taking fractions from other people's blood, yet not even being allowed to donate or receive your own blood back. Actually, you can receive your own blood back in some limited procedures.
It is very rare that whole blood is transfused any more. Most transfusions are fractions. The sad thing is that they still refuse to let people have PRBC's (packed red blood cells), which is what a person desperately needs in a situation of major blood loss. So witnesses continue to die after losing blood in accidents and childbirth.
My first post was about the blood doctrine and I work as a nurse. It always made me mad how they misinformed people about the dangers of blood transfusions compared to the dangers of massive blood loss. They usually slip in the idea of bloodless surgery to muddy the waters and change the focus.
Best wishes to you. You could just fade away to keep family relationships. There are different views on here as to which is best, fading or being more open with leaving, as you probably know if you've read for a while. What ever works for you is best. cl
although not in print yet - 440 bethelites reassigned, was the figure i heard from the platform as to how many bethelites have been reassigned to the field in one way or another in the usa
My family still in keeps telling me how this was a good thing, a way to help the congos. I wonder if the ones dumped into the real world feel this way?
a bizarre explosion at a church east of kansas city killed one man on saturday afternoon.
atf agents said the explosion at the jehovah's witness' kingdom hall on foggy bottom drive was intentionally set, and that the person who died appears to have committed suicide.
witnesses described large amounts of smoke pouring out of the building, which they said was just recently completed.
Thanks stilla. The brother that died was related to a brother in my area. I have been listening to the jws around here try to explain this away. I wonder if the real truth will get very far amongst the witnesses?
is indeed apparently nigh as another poster predicted along with the end of the weekly bs.
not sure when this should take place but i'm reliably informed by a family member that one of the uk's overseers was talking about it fairly recently.
reduced to weekend visits by an outside but local elder instead.. i have no further info..
Just bookmarking for later. Thanks.
a reliable source has informed us that the registrar of gilead was removed....laid off.
is the watchtower school of gilead, where they train their missionaries, in the process of downsizing or perhaps dismantling.
now that math.
I will be logged on, if possible. Thanks!
hey folks!
if you go to the jw portal.... http://www.jw.org .
you'll notice the name of the website is.
This site actually has the newest mags. for download, both the public and the private study editions. I was surprised to see you could get the study editions without a hassle. Everyone my husband asked to bring him a study edition said he would have to pick it up himself at the hall.
New name, same material. I guess it is possible that the publishers will just download their mags. in the future. Heard that predicted, but found it rather cold. There are a couple of newer books for download also.
You just have to agree not to post them anywhere without their permission.
